tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post4024618205848687475..comments2023-09-04T21:36:48.170+10:00Comments on The Site Formally Known As: Demoralising DarwinStubbadubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05333188150383405691noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-14931454549695760432009-06-04T13:09:25.322+10:002009-06-04T13:09:25.322+10:00Always more of an Oliver Cromwell man, me.
"...Always more of an Oliver Cromwell man, me.<br /><br />"Away with this bauble"Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-22300397586768211032009-06-04T13:02:25.310+10:002009-06-04T13:02:25.310+10:00Agreed, but who did you prefer?
Myself, I was roo...Agreed, but who did you prefer?<br /><br />Myself, I was rooting for James Scott. I was so sad after the Monmouth Rebellion failed, I went off my vittles and gruel for a whole week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-11810161009623295342009-06-04T12:51:47.551+10:002009-06-04T12:51:47.551+10:00The Hanoverians are a pack of cunts.
I wouldn'...The Hanoverians are a pack of cunts.<br /><br />I wouldn't trust them with a blunt butter knife, let alone the English crown.Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-90238254385626986522009-06-04T12:46:30.444+10:002009-06-04T12:46:30.444+10:00Without a time machine and a portable paterntity k...Without a time machine and a portable paterntity kit, no, I can't be certain.<br /><br />But the Hanoverian line bases its claim to the throne on that lineage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-32793910522563384912009-06-04T12:18:27.868+10:002009-06-04T12:18:27.868+10:00James Stewart, Boogey?
Are you sure?James Stewart, Boogey?<br /><br />Are you sure?Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-39802415120753721312009-06-04T12:15:11.319+10:002009-06-04T12:15:11.319+10:00Ramon - King George I (Elizabeth II's ancestor...Ramon - King George I (Elizabeth II's ancestor) was the great-grandson of James I (also an ancestor of William I) through his maternal grandmother.<br /><br />So I don't see how the Glorious Revolution affected that.<br /><br />Perseus, we've never spoken Middle English, n00b. Olde Englishe, maybe a little.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-85231983391600663232009-06-04T11:45:36.025+10:002009-06-04T11:45:36.025+10:00I love a good INH and Boogey geek tussle almost as...I love a good INH and Boogey geek tussle almost as much as I love me a Pers v Boogey ideology 'un. <br /><br />Great post, Bob. The rest of you cunts pick your jaws up off the floor, yes I said it.Descihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01291564765612453046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-14059619086436111182009-06-04T11:17:04.978+10:002009-06-04T11:17:04.978+10:00If you break into Middle English again, then I wil...If you break into Middle English again, then I will call you nerds.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-63477354404982920132009-06-04T10:50:58.206+10:002009-06-04T10:50:58.206+10:00The Glorous Revolution of 1688.
You do realise Pe...The Glorous Revolution of 1688.<br /><br />You do realise Perseus is going to call us "nerds" again.Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-88397693719510933832009-06-04T10:44:06.702+10:002009-06-04T10:44:06.702+10:00How do you figure that? Where do you see the line ...How do you figure that? Where do you see the line breaking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-13432386922386563062009-06-04T10:39:35.330+10:002009-06-04T10:39:35.330+10:00Stuff and nonsense, Boogey.
Lizzie 11 is no more ...Stuff and nonsense, Boogey.<br /><br />Lizzie 11 is no more related to William the Conqueror than you or me.Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-5698866739982595622009-06-04T10:12:09.295+10:002009-06-04T10:12:09.295+10:00No no, I mean King William the 1st of England, not...No no, I mean King William the 1st of England, not King William the 1st of a bunch of stoned red-headed Amsterdamians.<br /><br />Lizzie II's ancestry goes back to William the Conqueror, so she can accept responsibility for a) Middle English, b) split infinitives, and c) the fact no one in university that studies Beowulf can read the bloody original without doing all sorts of linguistic brain gymnastics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-29326568866745267952009-06-04T09:40:02.537+10:002009-06-04T09:40:02.537+10:00Hearsay and generalization only, but several NZ fr...Hearsay and generalization only, but several NZ friends over the years have commented that the majority of Pakehas there have or will have Maori relatives, even if they don't have Maori blood so the land/rights debate is losing its "us and them" sting, (Treaty issues notwithstanding).catlickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13576403056383762758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-25679240251129489762009-06-04T08:33:30.134+10:002009-06-04T08:33:30.134+10:00William 1 was Dutch.William 1 was Dutch.Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-17491466099520463172009-06-03T22:32:05.548+10:002009-06-03T22:32:05.548+10:00Her bloodline goes back to William I. If anyone...Her bloodline goes back to William I. If anyone's to blame for all that French clogging up ye olde Englishe, it's her family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-32889304226885176812009-06-03T10:15:44.774+10:002009-06-03T10:15:44.774+10:00Wrong monarch, Boogey.
She's German.Wrong monarch, Boogey.<br /><br />She's German.Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-79596668966658109752009-06-03T08:29:38.465+10:002009-06-03T08:29:38.465+10:00As a white living in a predominantly black society...As a white living in a predominantly black society here in the Caribbean, I am intrigued as to why Iseem to be partially responsible for the slavery of the late 18th century purely because of my skin colour. <br />"yaz all de same" one taxi driver kindly pointed out to me as I asked him if he would mind helping me with a stoller and a couple of kids out of his van. "Slavery over now ya know".<br /><br />When my Aunt did the good ol' English/ Danish family tree there was nothing but a couple of school teachers,a printer, seamstress and a baker... good working calls stock. Couldn't find any weathy landowners, politicians or ships captains that may have taken part in/profited from slavery.<br /><br />I appreciate that the past will never ever be forgotten, especially here in the Caribbean, and it shouldn't be. Human atrocities such as the slave trade & genocide must be remembered so future genertation can ensure it will never happens again (Rwanda, Darfur.. so much for that theory)<br /><br />Its just that the young kids here, black and white,do not see the racial differences until the elders point it out them often in a disparaging tones.<br /><br />I am curious to hear your thoughts on this... am I being too sensitive and perocial about it all. Its good to get views from those on the outside as living the day to day here can cloud ones rationale somewhat.homesickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871859873854371963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-50496421219667985162009-06-02T22:33:26.803+10:002009-06-02T22:33:26.803+10:00I'm interested in Witchone's point about how many ...I'm interested in Witchone's point about how many full blooded or half blooded Aboriginals are there left? What is the line they use to say 'this person is/isn't Aboriginal'? 1/8th? 1/16th? In another 200 years will we still be making amends? Where's the cut-off for these things? Just curious. <br /><br />Regarding saving the environment - we all got plasmas instead.patchouligirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14462983717621525841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-34380773401399567312009-06-02T18:03:11.740+10:002009-06-02T18:03:11.740+10:00I was going to write a heartfelt pithy yet useful ...I was going to write a heartfelt pithy yet useful par on why you are wrong WitchOne, but I reckon it wont change anything. You are all the way over there, and I am sort of about here, and the peoples who live daily with the consequences of 200 years of uninvited colonization are somewhere else. Germany has the grace to be ashamed, to "abide by those lessons". [Hi Godwin!] We are the dominant culture, we have obligations, and we should, perhaps, at the very least, try to fix things for as long a period as we denied anything was wrong. So in 100 plus years time after a sustained bi-partisan well funded consultative process I am prepared to examine whether it is worth it, whether we should be bothered, whether it will ever work. Meanwhile, we should do it.catlickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13576403056383762758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-37382401453489533002009-06-02T16:44:19.955+10:002009-06-02T16:44:19.955+10:00Why should the Queen apologise to your family, Wit...Why should the Queen apologise to your family, Witchy? Either your ancestors broke the law and were punished for what they did by being shipped to Australia, or they were offered a berth on a ship headed here to start a new life. Either way, you don't deserve an apology. What did the Aboriginals ever do to deserve what they got? Simply inhabiting a land the English wanted to use as a penal colony doesn't justify what was done to them.<br /><br />And so what if the Aboriginals around today don't personally recall what it was like 200 years ago. They still have their belief systems, and if they believe that a piece of land is sacred, it is in their lifetime that such land is mined and desecrated. They are entitled to feel how they do about it. The mining didn't happen 200 years ago, Witchy, it's happening now.Puss In Bootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14236191025319308375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-32808887265737253992009-06-02T15:54:43.238+10:002009-06-02T15:54:43.238+10:00I'm still waiting for the Queen to apologise for t...I'm still waiting for the Queen to apologise for the Normans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-71390977875259987022009-06-02T15:42:46.267+10:002009-06-02T15:42:46.267+10:00I think you're taking the piss Pers. I never said ...I think you're taking the piss Pers. I never said they lost get over it. <br /><br />Maybe I should have requested the Queen apologise to my family for shipping us over here way back when. I'm sure life would have been different had we stayed in mother England.<br /><br />Frankly, I don't feel the government should have apologised, but then I think Boogey is correct, the government is a continuous entity and so maybe it was right.<br /><br />There are so many arguments to be made for and against and really, what does it solve? The mining companies still take what they want, the government still does as it pleases. We still spend shitloads on Aboriginal support projects that don't go anywhere because some bleeding heart can't spend the money properly.<br /><br />The projects are a great idea but I have yet to see one that has actually worked.WitchOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09562967775567670188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-33099112859194264312009-06-02T15:09:36.212+10:002009-06-02T15:09:36.212+10:00...kinda like buying a house really.
You might bu......kinda like buying a house really.<br /><br />You might buy a nice house but say, "Oh, it has a broken window."<br /><br />So you call a glazier. You don't sit there and say, "Well I didn't put the hole in the window so why should I fix it?"<br /><br />Likewise, if you're a kid born and raised at the family house, you also have to deal with the broken window as part of the family.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-5464320410141179332009-06-02T15:06:50.035+10:002009-06-02T15:06:50.035+10:00I agree Boogeyman. It was the Government's job to...I agree Boogeyman. It was the Government's job to apologise.<br /><br />But as you live in the country, regardless of where you came from, you inherit its history, and play a part in forging its future. <br /><br />Saying "they lost, get over it" (as Witchy did) will do nothing but make the future murkier.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-70258107671457282262009-06-02T14:56:15.210+10:002009-06-02T14:56:15.210+10:00Perseus and Witchy...
I don't celebrate Australi...Perseus and Witchy... <br /><br />I don't celebrate Australia Day, ANZAC Day, I think Don Bradman was a cunt, and I don't celebrate any 'successes' of my ancestors.<br /><br />Easter and Xmas don't count because they're not celebrations of any ancestors' successes, they're just (as far as I am concerned) a nice secular holiday with family and friends.<br /><br />All my immediate ancestors were from England, so there's absolutely no lineal connection between me and the perpetrators of the White Australia policy.<br /><br />Am I now also excluded from apologising for the actions of my ancestors?<br /><br />However, I do agree that the government is not an individual, and can be considered a continuous entity throughout history, regardless of the current party or individuals in power, and therefore it was appropriate and correct for the government to apologise for actions of past governments.<br /><br />But for myself, while I sympathise with the plight of the Stolen Generation, I wouldn't apologise if asked (unless I were the head of a government or organisation previously responsible for the act).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com