tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post408480136680437275..comments2023-09-04T21:36:48.170+10:00Comments on The Site Formally Known As: The Emperor Is Wearing No ClothesStubbadubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05333188150383405691noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-64310425226781426732008-12-12T05:33:00.000+11:002008-12-12T05:33:00.000+11:00I agree with you on most of it Pers but then again...I agree with you on most of it Pers but then again you're the resident muso so far be it for me to question your musical choices.<BR/><BR/>I am 42 BMX boy, and I still don't get the "genius" that was The Beatles. Was it just simply because they came out with someting very different to what was around at the time that made people say "WOW"?<BR/><BR/>Flame me if you must but give me Rolling Stones over the fab four any day* <BR/><BR/>McCartney.. so overrated then and now, and as for Wings... nope enough said.<BR/><BR/>*Mind you I love alot of Harrison's solo stuff (Sweet Lord, What is Life) much more than any of the Beatles stuffhomesickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871859873854371963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-55046397121143139542008-12-11T21:39:00.001+11:002008-12-11T21:39:00.001+11:00Shit it stinks in here. All this testerostonica is...Shit it stinks in here. All this testerostonica is full-on.<BR/><BR/>Let me know when there's a post about hair, ponies, sex or makeup.<BR/><BR/>I'll come back then.<BR/><BR/>PS I have the Beatles box set of albums. Yup, got it for my 18th birthday.Melbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257719342445833725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-53819468253479826912008-12-11T21:39:00.000+11:002008-12-11T21:39:00.000+11:00I can do all those things (singing and dancing and...I can do all those things (singing and dancing and painting and writing and stuff), badly, and it ain't art.Lewd Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482085817373911266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-87292993674686915322008-12-11T21:31:00.000+11:002008-12-11T21:31:00.000+11:00I just think some do it better than othersInitiall...<I>I just think some do it better than others</I><BR/><BR/>Initially, I was trying to say that while I'm capable of telling you if I enjoyed something or not, I have no idea how to judge whether art is good or bad beyond that point. So I don't see any way to differentiate art from entertainment. You made a point about certain bands being historically or culturally significant. Is that a defining factor?<BR/><BR/><I>Art is singing and dancing and painting and writing and stuff.</I><BR/><BR/>Does that definition include people who hang flags off things or people who shit in jars and put them on display? What about pornography?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-19821418064286990402008-12-11T20:43:00.000+11:002008-12-11T20:43:00.000+11:00I have a more liberal definition of art that's eas...I have a more liberal definition of art that's easy to understand. Art is singing and dancing and painting and writing and stuff. <BR/><BR/>Britney's art. So is NCIS. So is ancinet rock carvings. <BR/><BR/>We all know what art is.<BR/><BR/>I just think some do it better than others, and some, such as The beatles, heralded in a new concept of what art can be. <BR/><BR/>I for one think what's groundbreaking about The Beatles is the first four albums. Listen to them on headphones some time. On the rockier numbers, they are bashing the crap out of their instruments - a precursor to hard rock / punk. They took Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis one step further. Cut forward only 2 or 3 years and suddenly Velvet Underground, Stooges and The Doors are adding the whole 'high art' thing to the 'basic art' thing, chuck in and voila... new genres are opening up like no tomorrow.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-23306869176394522932008-12-11T20:25:00.000+11:002008-12-11T20:25:00.000+11:00Yeah, I said I wouldn't and then I did.Anyway, we'...Yeah, I said I wouldn't and then I did.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, we're talking about it 40 years later so maybe longevity is one of art's greatest attributes.<BR/><BR/>Not that 40 years is very long in the context of great art.Lewd Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482085817373911266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-441395846325908682008-12-11T20:18:00.000+11:002008-12-11T20:18:00.000+11:00Bob.Are you saying that great art is something tha...Bob.<BR/><BR/>Are you saying that great art is something that contains ideas or perspectives that you find new or interesting?<BR/><BR/>I know you said that you're not trying to define art but I had to ask.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-38572990737924371762008-12-11T19:50:00.000+11:002008-12-11T19:50:00.000+11:00The Stones of the period were much better musicall...The Stones of the period were much better musically.<BR/><BR/>I also hate so much of the McCartney stuff in the Beatles. At least John's writing had an edge to it.<BR/><BR/>I downloaded the entire Beatles discography and then went through and did what Perseus did, deleting half of it.<BR/><BR/>Oh and Miss Helena nude? Yay!Fad MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14682635778182144243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-9285249490851948642008-12-11T19:38:00.000+11:002008-12-11T19:38:00.000+11:00Much so called 'art' is little more than entertain...Much so called 'art' is little more than entertainment but it's all about how you define art. Greater minds than mine have failed to agreed on it so I'm not going to try for a definitive answer.<BR/><BR/>However great art is there to challenge us, to make us think differently, to see things from various perspectives. If all it is is entertainment, then it's not art at all. Art is something that takes us a little further. I think Sgt Peppers - and much of the Beatles' mid to late period output - IS art. Doesn't mean you have to like it.Lewd Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482085817373911266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-40570441705194808612008-12-11T19:27:00.000+11:002008-12-11T19:27:00.000+11:00Maybe I am far too young(24), but I just don't get...<I>Maybe I am far too young(24), but I just don't get the Beatles... Just a seemingly very average band, from my point of view... </I><BR/><BR/>I like a lot of different kinds of music from a lot of different eras but the Beatles don't stand out to me as being anything particularly special. On the other hand, I'm not really able to debate the merits of things like music, photography, film, and art in general. To me, it's all just entertainment and the only thing that matters is how much enjoyment you personally get from it. I sometimes get the impression that the word "art" is used to try and raise entertainment to an intellectual level and make people who don't enjoy it feel dumb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-86803404609658698772008-12-11T18:42:00.000+11:002008-12-11T18:42:00.000+11:00Their best is represented by some of 'Help', almos...Their best is represented by some of 'Help', almost all of 'Rubber Soul' and 'Revolver' and scatterings of greatness from 'Sgt Peppers' to 'Let it Be'.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Abbey Road, 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' is fucking great, you cad.Lewd Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482085817373911266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-71029652571654733312008-12-11T16:54:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:54:00.000+11:00Maybe I am far too young(24), but I just don't get...Maybe I am far too young(24), but I just don't get the Beatles... Just a seemingly very average band, from my point of view... <BR/><BR/>Besides, everyone knows that the New Wave/New Romantic/Synthpop era of the 80's is the best period of music ever to be recoreded...<BR/><BR/>Watching Yellow Submarine whilst high is a interesting experience, however...the one thing from the Beatles body of work I can recommend.shitbmxriderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14549819832339915254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-5204164809748106832008-12-11T16:53:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:53:00.000+11:00Still, it's got quite a nice coverWhen I was young...Still, it's got quite a nice cover<BR/><BR/>When I was young, a boyfriend used to play 'When I'm Sixty-four' and he used to look at me in a meaningful way. He also used to sing Karen Carpenter's 'Close to You' in a Kermit voicesquibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744419106501810243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-80242567095741507912008-12-11T16:39:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:39:00.000+11:00Revolver is a much better album.And I bet your fav...<I>Revolver</I> is a much better album.<BR/><BR/>And I bet your favourite character on <I>The Young Ones</I> was Vivian - wasn't it Pers?<BR/><BR/><I>The Doors</I>? I spit on them!Ramon Insertnameherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367002511826523517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-71551343588232553112008-12-11T16:16:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:16:00.000+11:00I missed where the disclaimer ended.The Beatles an...I missed where the disclaimer ended.<BR/><BR/>The Beatles and drugs didn't mix well. The Doors mixed drugs and music much better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-63674072643118651632008-12-11T16:09:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:09:00.000+11:00...and add 'Mean Mister Mustard' to that shit list......and add 'Mean Mister Mustard' to that shit list.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-15731135347307904042008-12-11T16:08:00.000+11:002008-12-11T16:08:00.000+11:00Miss Helena nude? You sick fuck.I stand by my Abb...Miss Helena nude? You sick fuck.<BR/><BR/>I stand by my Abbey Road comment. If it was The Beatles' debut album, the record executives would meet and say, "Well, it's pretty shit, but this Harrison bloke who wrote 'Something' and 'Here Cokes The Sun' seems pretty good. Let's get him to write some songs for Nancy Sinatra." <BR/><BR/>'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' is good, 'Come Together' is good... the Harrison songs are tolerable and the rest is garbage.<BR/><BR/>"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"?<BR/>"Octopus's Garden"?<BR/><BR/>Please. They are not just the low point of The Beatles' body of work, but they are the low point of rock music full stop.Perseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292281862441986618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2949589573125647543.post-40667610348166888472008-12-11T15:59:00.000+11:002008-12-11T15:59:00.000+11:00I think you're a little wrong but not too far away...I think you're a little wrong but not too far away. I agree the album's overrated and not even close to The Beatles' best. 'A Day in the Life' is, indeed, one of the best songs ever written, as is Golden Brown (pity it didn't appear on the album). And yes, the ditties: they're pretty unlistenable. Unless you're into easy listening.<BR/><BR/>This is where you're wrong:<BR/><BR/>'Abbey Road' is great. 'Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite' is very good. And I'd love to see Miss Helena doing 'Lovely Rita' nude. I'm just not sure why.Lewd Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482085817373911266noreply@blogger.com